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The real OMD subscribers are on way ahead training challenges #4 or #5 or something I think, but I just got around to attempting course #1 yesterday. And its not likely I'm going to get around to trying it again, so I kind of worked on it past the time it was good for Stel to keep on keeping on. Poor Stella, she's a good sport.

I made a whole long vid of pretty much our whole session (I'll post it at the very bottom) which doesn't add up to that many minutes of real running time, but Stel starts to think its HER thats screwing up and she loses enthusiasm and then we get way out of sync and more problems happen. blah blah blah. We did take a break in the middle. But, I should have played soccer with her or something in-between to give us that mental respite. I just get too focussed on me learning the stuff. Again, pooooor Stel.

But I also just post two short vids of us getting through it one run each... (well, i did throw in a leetle do-over in the second one) first, the way it felt normal to me to run it and then with a couple things one of the OMD handler was doing. I favored one of their handler's choices over the other. And there were two places where I never got it right: the second time back down through the pink wing (probably should have been a "german turn") and also the trio of jumps way back by the driveway... (that should have been first "rhythm change" or "whisky cross" to "jaakko turn" to "front cross" or "flick") -- didn't happen for me and poor Stel got all fretful and pokey there.

I may set up little pieces of it to work on sometime again... But, it took forever to fit it in our mole/ground hog lumpy awkward shaped space... and the little part way in the distance I consistently had trouble with actually was supposed to be set up a little different, but with the trees and whatnot, I did the best I could.  I also had to improvise a wall jump and spread jump.



you can see the contrast in enthusiasm from above to here : (


and this is the long whole session vid and its taking forever to load... so eventually. I'm mainly just putting it here for myself.
She starts with such uncontainable enthusiasm and lets go! I can't get a start line stay or anything she's so excited we have a whole course in the yard... and then, i make mistakes, and she worries and gets unsure of me and herself... its long. its tedious



I dream of someday being smooooothe and keeping my hands low

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matildasmom
Apr. 11th, 2014 07:43 pm (UTC)
It's hard to tell what's going on in the distance, but it looks as though you're doing great. Stella does get tired for sure. That's a long time to maintain enthusiasm, but in the first runs you are doing really well together.
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 11th, 2014 09:24 pm (UTC)
Also she may have been coming down with kennel cough. She had a pretty serious bout if it this morning after offleash and at offleash she kept lying down. I hope not. I gave her local raw honey and the homeopathic stuff Jeannine suggested. She hasn't coughed since so maybe it was just something caught in her throat. But the lying down was weird.
nosemovie
Apr. 11th, 2014 08:35 pm (UTC)
I'd totally suggest shorter sequences (like 5-7 things MAX) with wild enthusiasm and tons of play breaks.

Those types of courses do not lend themselves to extension, which can be de-motivating to dogs who ask a lot of questions (and Stel seems to be a question asker).
So I might design something like that with some sort of long straight part at the end to have a WOO HOO moment and something for the dog to look forward to. Does that makes sense?
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 11th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
In Soshana's class we often were doing 26 or even 31 obstacles and Stel kept her energy and enthusiasm start to finish... We would have discussed the handling in class and walked it with that handling and I would have run her with a certain amount of confidence. It's no coincidence that the part she is slow on is the part I am really not sure of... But yes generally you are right. If anything stresses her if there is a fly or she can see I have questions about what I am doing it gives her pause
I think she could have used that short fun blast of an extension sequence inbetween me trying to learn how to handle this OMD course. I could have just run some other short combination of obstacles completely unrelated. Yeah.
Judy also says too many turning cues stop her.
Silvia, yes I asked Silvia for advice a while back on this OMD stuff and Stella and her advice was practice it all without Stella and don't use any of the moves until I know exactly what I am doing.
nosemovie
Apr. 11th, 2014 09:24 pm (UTC)
Yes... if you know what you're doing, she's going to feel more confident too.
BUT... if you'd like to "practice with a dog" I'd say to 4-7 things in a row (in a course like this) and then celebrate. This allows you to practice the flow with the dog to help remind you of what she sees, where the cues must be given, but does NOT ask too much of either of you.
Work it in small sequences, then repeat of necessary. Agility courses are 20+ things, but agility practice never should be.
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penichops
Apr. 11th, 2014 09:39 pm (UTC)
I struggle with EXACTLY the same thing! It's sending me nuts right now. How am i meant to practice handling without fixing my own mistakes but not freaking out poor Badger. I actually think you looked seriously marvelous out there and very smoot. So much beautiful movement. Em went to the OMD seminar this week and i think she said something about when you indicate the wrong obstacle don't stop, just keep taking obstacles until you get yourself back to the same spot again. That way the dog doesn't get creeped out.
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 11th, 2014 09:53 pm (UTC)
We must get out our imaginary dogs and run the sequence with them first, perfect everything first with them. Because they don't care. I forget I have one. She's so quiet and really asks for so little.
penichops
Apr. 11th, 2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
Especially if i am feeling rushed or in catch up mode I will not put enough time into running with my imaginary dog first and that is something REALLY important for me because i am not one of nature's handlers. Happens all the time and afterwards i kick myself for being a dorkwad. :)

So glad you bought this up today. Super relevant, thanks
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matildasmom
Apr. 11th, 2014 10:45 pm (UTC)
I've just been working the April Backyard Dogs exercise with Matilda and Joey, just 8 obstacles, but I didn't walk even those 8 well enough or think them through well enough. First I realized with Matilda I'd made a bad handing choice. I fixed that and Matilda was a good girl about fixing. Some of the elements I should have worked with Joey separately. There's a send to a curved tunnel from the back which I've never done with him. The weave entrance was a challenge, too. He was quitting on me. So I stopped. I came back to it an hour later and he did a great job.

I need to remember to keep it fun.
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 11th, 2014 11:17 pm (UTC)
Moniques place is just 20 bucks an hour to rent during the day before 5pm - this sort of course would have been so much easier to set up in a whole wide open space---with level ground!!!!

PS: I already have wild rose bush battle injuries
matildasmom
Apr. 12th, 2014 12:04 am (UTC)
Good idea for next time.

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cedarfield
Apr. 12th, 2014 01:04 am (UTC)
On the other end of the spectrum is Susan Garrett (who is a Bob Bailey fanatic) who never trains for more than 5 minutes at a time.
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 12th, 2014 04:33 am (UTC)
yeah, i'm not so sure the OMD peeps don't also do short training stints. I think once you have all the machinery up and running, thats all you really need
semperfido
Apr. 12th, 2014 01:50 am (UTC)
You guys are freaking me out. You actually practice and train your dogs. Novel concept.
dinahprincedaly
Apr. 12th, 2014 03:24 am (UTC)
We are still trying to catch up--so far to go. I'm tired of getting through flying by the seat of my pants. I'd actually like to know how to do this.
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