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Although Stella will go to the MM when she hears the sound, I am having problems with making the restraining part of the exercise work, because she really thinks when I hold her back by the harness she should "hold back" So she stands politely without straining against the harness or collar and waits for permission to go to the MM... SO how do I get her to be bad and pull? Its true that when the cats came to sniff she started to pull when I tried to drag her away before she finished eating (as Daisy suggested), but so then the cats walked off uninterested and Stella went back to being too obedient... 


No agility class today... she did a number on one of her rear pads... so we took it easy at the park, some ball, but not much running... the ground was still morning frosted




and I used the new zebra poopbag holder my sister gave me for xmas... sense of humor that matildasmom, the zebra poops out the poopbags 


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moodypdx
Jan. 11th, 2012 09:23 pm (UTC)
Have you tried racing her to it? You know, you're all tense next to her, in a crouch, talking to her in a pirate voice, revving your engine. Then get her to chase you and race her to the MM. May be worth a shot.

Freddie is a hands off dog, he prefers it that way. Racing games have always been a favorite of ours.

Edited at 2012-01-11 09:24 pm (UTC)
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC)
I'll have to work on my pirate voice!!! sure I can try that... Not sure what Daisy would say, if its kosher, because if I understand her correctly, her choice to train running contacts with the MM is so that the dogs learn to do it independently from the beginning, the MM offers the opportunity to take the handler out of it, out of being a factor in their drive forward... she teaches the running first with no handler motion...
but maybe bringing out my inner pirate for her would get Stella going
Now if they made an MM that dispensed soccerballs or maybe dirty socks or squirrels--those things make her bad

Edited at 2012-01-11 09:48 pm (UTC)
nosemovie
Jan. 11th, 2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
oooh A MM that pops out Squirrels!!! BRILLIANT!!
moodypdx
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:01 pm (UTC)
Well maybe it will help build value.

I am not a big fan of the MM in agility training, so I don't have a ton of advice on it, but I am great at motivating a dog;)
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
I'm not a big fan of the MM either... B has wanted to get one for three years and I just never saw the point, but now I'm willing to try Daisy's approach with one because she's pretty skeptical of the ball-trained running contacts, really working. I don't have any experience beyond Stella, so I'm taking in what Silvia says, what Daisy says, what Frankie says... and what Stella says too... she'd probably like racing a pirate, so I'll try it---thanks
borderpap
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
Try holding her back from her waist. She might have learned that any pressure on her shoulders/front is a cue not to pull. But if you hold her from her waist, that might work. I would work on that in front of things she's really excited about.
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
oh good thought!
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
ok, so we just played sock thief race and tug... she was fine with me restraining her by the waist, she was all revved up pulling and pulling to get to the sock... hmmm now to transfer that to a mmachine
penichops
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
How to make stella bad
Guns

I think she wants a gun and a bandanna
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
guns... they sound too much like fireworks... she hates fireworks, but maybe a cutlass or bayonet... I can see her running with a jolly roger bandanna around her neck and a bayonet in her mouth
nosemovie
Jan. 11th, 2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
She should probably ride around in something like this as well. That should help the whole "tude" issue.

http://www.apnimarzi.com/wp-content/gallery/cars-wallpapers/1963_Chevy_Impala_Lowrider.jpg
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 11th, 2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
you sure know how to find fine cars on the internet
nosemovie
Jan. 11th, 2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
There's no problem in the world that can't be fixed by a tricked-out Impala. None. NONE!
ripnpaws
Jan. 12th, 2012 02:06 am (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
Having LJ trouble. Hope this goes thru. I used the MM to train running contacts. To build in drive to MM, I feed food meals from the mm cup for a week. I don't bother with the click part until I have drive for the MM. I use their dinner kibble but I suppose you could use Lil Caesar food. All the OTCH training around here is done with Lil Caesars. I don't think there is anything wrong with using a toy. ST has had great success with it. But timing has to be more spot on and the MM is more forgiving.

Like the idea of a MM that dispenses squirrels. Back before I retired Crave due to her jumping issues, I looked into a tennis ball launcher to replace the MM. There was even a video of a european version of one being used for contact training.
meecie
Jan. 12th, 2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
OOOOOOOOH. That's a brilliant idea! MM that launches tennis balls, Riley would love that to death. (There's a reason I do almost all her agility training alone now - she will certainly work for food, but her motivation is just better, more focused, less stressed, for balls.)
dinahprincedaly
Jan. 13th, 2012 01:09 pm (UTC)
Re: How to make stella bad
Thanks--I do want to give this a try. my toy timing so leaves something to be desired... tho I like Silvia's fun and games play and more forgiving approach... not sure yet about the harder line Daisy marine-ish perfectionism... tho I know I could use a leetle more of that, being a softy and one of the things Daisy said was "soft dogs can't handle fuzzy" which makes real sense... I did really like her five fails countdown, that goes back to zero when you get a success... so anyway, I'm going to try those MM meals for a week--great idea... right away, when she's got the idea I think I might try hide n seek MM meals, a game I play now sometimes with her meals for recall reinforcing, but with the MM it will be for that independent drive... ok I'm rambling, too early before coffee for training planing

but oh those europeans--they are so out there!!!
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